We finally had a chance to use our Springbar Vagabond Factory 2ND on two separate outings. The first was hot and sunny with little shade, the other cooler but plagued with rain, some of it heavy. "We" are two adults with two English Setters. The Vagabond easily accommodates the four of us. As near as I can tell the "untidy stitching" noted as the Factory 2ND had no effect on performance of the tent. On our first outing the tent was no more hot than any other tent, short of a completely mesh one, but in the future I will seek as shady a location as possible. There was no rain infiltration on our second trip, although a fly would be advantageous in being able to keep the window/door open and aid in drying out the tent.